How Adobe Can Benefit From Steve Jobs’ Hatred of Flash [Commentary on How Adobe Can Utilize the Flash vs. HTML5 Debate to Their Advantage]

As long as Adobe delivers poorly performing cross platform apps for the Mac, Apple has no reason to cater to them.

Adobe dug this hole for them selves, they will have to climb out. One way to do this is to stop being so arrogant and presumptuous. Apple owes you nothing, Adobe. If you deliver poorly performing apps for the Mac then we Mac users will ignore you.

You chose a decade ago to climb in bed with Microsoft. Stay with your first choice and leave us Mac users alone. There is nothing you have which we can’t get better elsewhere.

“I’m saying software that would make it so developers who knew Flash would be able to utilize the same knowledge to code in HTML5.”

Thanks for the clarification… this wouldn’t be a personal tool for your own use then, sounds like.

Those using Flash already work in HTML, and we’ll keep tracking with them as clientside support becomes more widespread. There are many constituencies to support.

jd/adobe

“…Stay with [Microsoft] and leave us Mac users alone.”

@Louis Wheeler, I can’t imagine whose life you think would be better if Adobe took your recommendation to heart.

Not many many Mac users, such as my son, who just bought a new MacBook Pro after seeing how well mine performs, and who, as the chief web designer, for a non-profit, spends half his time in Photoshop (and probably a good share of the rest in DreamWeaver and various browsers to see how his pages look.

Not Apple, whose sales would go to Windows, just as Adobe kinda suggested years ago.

And not even Adobe, many of whose users wouldn’t be upgrading, maybe trying to put up with next-best solutions such as GIMP, that I see touted occasionally.

I don’t disagree that Adobe hasn’t shown Apple much love over the years. I’ve characterized it as Adobe standing on Apple’s oxygen hose when Apple was close to death’s doorstep. Adobe’s product development, mostly Photoshop, encouraged some graphics types to switch to Windows, under the reasonable guess that PS on Windows would be the best, and maybe only version. For Adobe to encourage Flash developers that they’d be able to build iProduct apps in Flash was disingenuous, at best. They were using their own devs as pawns in the smokescreen that Flashless iPhones were Jobs’s fault.

But it’s also true that Apple has been a difficult business partner over the past few years: a couple of major changes of direction (remember Rhapsody?), a switch of CPUs and all the developer work that entailed, a roadmap that changes rather inconveniently (such as 2007, when Apple decided it that, in order to get Leopard out, it couldn’t afford the effort to fulfill its promise of 64-bit Carbon, which Adobe was counting on for CS4), less-than-really-stable OpenCL drivers, and changed methods of drawing in the sprung-out-of-nowhere Safari. All this makes engineering products for Macs more expensive and riskier.

But you don’t make a marriage better by scoring whose grievances more deserve apologies. You try to find common ground.